What a nice book :) it didn't happen to me for a long time to be so impressed by a "social science a.k.a sociology" book.
At the beginning when people discussed the book I hadn't read it but what most of them commented on was that the book is too much exaggerated and that it is not possible immigrants to suffer mentally and physically at such a great extend. After all, immigration be it for studying, practicing profession or, as it is in the book, being a guest worker, is personal choice. What is more, motives for immigration are as numerous as people's music preferences.
Having in mind Bourdieu's scientific negativism about the social world, I thought that the focus of the book would be more or less also focused only on the negative aspect of immigration and thus maybe a bit exaggerated BUT after reading the book I was struck.
Sayad displayed immigrants' feelings and thoughts so objectively and precisely that I cannot say anything else than just admire his book. I think that the book holds true not only for legal guest immigrant workers or illegal ones - everyone who's been an immigrant for a longer period of time had at some point in time at least one of the thoughts revealed in the book. And only those who haven't experienced anything about living in a different country can say it is exaggerated or subjective.
This is my personal opinion...however...who knows? Maybe I have experienced the bitter part of immigration, despite coming as a legal foreign student :)
Sayad is an Algerian who lived for quite a long time in France and his story is actually about Algerian migrants in France...disturbing picture...surely a lot has to be done in France on migration and integration issues...
"How bitter you can be, my country, when one dreams of leaving you. And how desirable you are, oh
“No, they never explained to us what
“You come to
“None of the emigrants interviewed had attempted or had been tempted to try to find work in an Algerian town.” A. Sayad à funny ah?
“It’s not only the ‘behavior of a holiday-maker’ that the emigrant introduces into his group. He also introduces a great number of attitudes imbued with a calculating spirit and the economic and social individualism that goes with it, and these have more serious implications.” A. Sayad
“When we speak of the emigration of families, we are therefore dealing with assimilation, no matter what terms of euphemistic variants (adaptation, integration, insertion etc.) are used to designate that social reality.” A. Sayad
“What one vision of the phenomenon of immigration sees as a ‘cost’ can be seen as a ‘benefit’ by another and conversely.” A. Sayad
“When I am alone, I think about it all, I think everything over, I examine it from every point of view. I try to understand; I try to understand how things happen. Do the things that happen really depend on me, or do they happen by themselves?”
14 comments:
well, is changing such a bad thing? :) we are the ones who make choices,and we should never forget that the choices we make have implications :)
Yeah, personal choices are never wrong if they they well considered but my idea is that many migrants are served a crooked idea of reality out there which is their leading motive to make a choice and leave. The illusion of happiness, a lot of money shown by those who are coming back for a holiday can be quite an influential factor for those who are unaware of the situation and take for granted personal opinion or in many cases ordinary lies.
yes, happiness=money - that's their idea. they are "served" an idea?!? well, they should just grow up and learn how to think for themselves. you'd say they're not educated. well, there are so many educated people who act in a similar way. people just don't know for sure what they want, what would make them happy. they nave "waste" their time on thinking about this, on dreaming.
Must admit, really inspiring book. Immigration and Identity by Salman Akhtar is quite good work too, have to say that I found it quite similar in ideas to Migration & Exile by Grinberg & Grinberg.
For me the idea of Social Loneliness (R.weiss) and theoretical conceptualizations of Loneliness during different stages in emigration/immigration process is much easier than looking in our everyday life.
Especially the idea that Immigrant males would experience difficulties when forming households.
Choices that we have are conditional choices and the influence that we experience from the society is really important.
Decision as Hayak said is conditional and must be observed as Immigration / emigration process.
Existential perspective may give us some clues about each existential case, these people are real and each one of them have specific subjective view, perceptions are either in process of changing - adapting or just stuck in one place, repeating the old experiences and not seeing the reality,
Loneliness is what causes mind immobility, the idea of secure base(Bowbly) can be also adopted when considering how people develop though such experiences, awareness can be only experienced when one feel secure and identify familiar ground, customs, faces... Secure Base or exploring the world in full awareness of the consequences is only possible when people have been given unconditional choice based on curiosity the need to explore the world, everything else as category falls in forced or conditional emigration.
Whatever, the book is really impressive and so far the best summary of Emigration – Immigration development.
Hello,
My name is Karla, i am a teacher of Geografhy at Unicentro im Brazil, your blog is very importante for the people...a too study migration in my country...
Good look fou you.
Easily I agree but I think the brief should prepare more info then it has.
Brim over I acquiesce in but I think the post should prepare more info then it has.
I want not approve on it. I over nice post. Particularly the title attracted me to be familiar with the whole story.
I will not approve on it. I regard as precise post. Specially the designation attracted me to study the intact story.
Nice fill someone in on and this enter helped me alot in my college assignement. Gratefulness you on your information.
Opulently I assent to but I contemplate the post should have more info then it has.
Yes, correctly.
Post a Comment